At what point do federal workers start using the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA) to sue the individuals, Elon, Amanda, et al for negligence? I haven't seen any articles about this but it seems like an avenue for federal workers to seek some redress for the PII exposure, agency heads stamping this offer as legal without any regard to the actual laws. Genuinely curious.
I have seen a number of commenters point this out, and legal nonprofits are gathering info, so it is being talked about. I agree absolutely with your comment about agency heads proceeding as if this were a genuinely valid process. I hope that what they actually are doing is stalling to give the legal folks time to pull together the suits to stop this. I am appalled.
An Australian friend says he is having trouble wrapping his mind around this (me too), and called what is happening "mind-numbing". The whole world is stunned.
American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) and the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), both federated unions under the AFL-CIO, represent more than 2 million government employees combined; AFGE alone represents nearly 800,000 federal civilian employees.(40%)
And along with that, there were the obvious weasel clauses about paying salary assuming funds were available........ I can hear it now, 'well ya know, the democrats wouldn't come to a funding agreement, and so the funds for your salary weren't there after March 17"
Elon Musk is a sick and deranged psychopath. He’s an inhumane WEIRDO, not to mention, um, a Nazi.
I wouldn’t believe a single word, not even a single LETTER, that this vile man writes.
Please DO NOT RESIGN. ❤️🙏
We, the people, support you. We, the people, need you! And most of all, we the people, the millions and millions of us who did not vote for this lunacy, would never want this for our country. The fact is, not even the dumb MAGA people who did vote for Trump 🤢 did NOT vote for Elon Musk either.
Please stand your ground. The world is watching. Thank you for your HIGH PRODUCTIVITY work. We actually do know how important it is. ❤️
And what the HELL is going on over at Treasury with the payment system?? Just read the WaPo article. He has no business getting access to that. Another lawsuit to file to block him. This is wholesale nuts.
Our tax dollars are being accessed (and potentially manipulated, diverted, destroyed, copied, shared and any number of things) by someone who we didn't vote for! 🤬🤬
Someone needs to be in there holding him accountable. He's blocked access to the employees and forced it the director of the department who has been there for decades.
You didn't lock management and workers out unless there is some crooked, or nefarious happening.
There are thousands of federal employees in states where their jobs are highly coveted because other industries are in short supply. What senator has not made a promise to bring some amount of federal employment to their state to boost the economy? For example, WV is home to a massive FBI division responsible for fingerprint analysis. The state also houses the IRS computing center, the Treasury bureau of public debt, the world-class mine health and safety academy where all mine disasters are analyzed, and two federal prisons among other agencies that need highly skilled employees. The federal government was the second largest employer in WV when I last lived there. I can't imagine the impact on the state's economy if these jobs are lost. The audacity to suggest federal employees are uneducated or unproductive is outrageous.
I am a retired military officer, and my daughter is a federal employee. She shared the follow-up e-mail with me, enraged at the "low-productivity" comment ... as it is, she is working nights and weekends in order to do the work her understaffed and overtasked office, meeting deadlines MANDATED BY LAW. This is an outrageous affront to the federal workforce, and Musk belongs either in jail or back in South Africa.
Too bad Robin Island is now shuttered and only available for tourists. But then again I'm sure they'd go more visitors if he was on display there. That would be so poetic :)
Thank you for keeping this deception front and center. They are, and always will be, liars. Just for fun let’s freeze all federal “outer space” contracts. You know, so they can stay home and rest.
😡 They assume federal workers are too stupid/lazy (hence, the “low productivity”) to see they are being scammed. One of donny’s fave moves is to promise to pay people and then stiff them. Annelise isn’t falling for it. Neither should any other federal worker.
This bullshit is exactly why there are unions! The NTEU had better get to work, rally the Federal Workers and show musk the weasel just who the hell he’s messing with!! People don’t get just how essential these workers are! Just my opinion!
I am absolutely 100% for that...it's time te people have a REVOLUTION! No one and I mean NO ONE is standing up FOR the people! It's time the people stood up for themselves!
I'm trying to wrap my head around all of it at the higher levels, because it feels they are all slowly rolling over. Today was a steady stream of organizational messages of support for the civilian workforce via emails, but nothing pushed back. I want to take personal legal action, but I know I just need to be patient and HOLD THE LINE!
My husband is a federal worker. I have called and written my senators. Please do the same. I created a case with one of them about the breach of security and personal data at OPM. We have to elevate this to create as big a backlash as the federal freezing of funds.
If Musk can infiltrate the database of federal workers with such agility, it is plausible that he infiltrated election databases, specifically those of swing states. Just putting this out there.
Federal workers: Do not fall for this trap! Do not resign! Resist!
No one ever should trust anything the Convicted Felon #47 says...he's a con man and con men LIE, STEAL and CHEAT will entice you with all sorts of things that are all false, fake and a bold face lie! I know, because I was conned by a con man and lost everything and he left me $50K in debt that I had to dig myself out. Oh yeah he promised me the moon and all I got was shafted...so trust me when I say this I know well the intentions of a con man...it's to get whatever HE wants & it's usually your money! the CF #47 is a shyster, a thief, a criminal and a master manipulator. Don't agree to jack sh*it because it's all a con.
Maybe you should first ask the MAGAs that bought his gaudy golden tennis shoes and all that other crap he was panhandling how many actually received the shoes or other crap they paid for.
So do not sign a thing...stand your ground and stay in your job. He's nothing but a vile despicable slime ball.
Musk is tone deaf, and Trump is tone deafer. If they did any polling to justify this move they deserve their money back -- but it's probably our tax dollars anyway.
Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality,[1] is a personality construct[2][3] characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, in combination with traits of boldness, disinhibition, and egocentrism. These traits are often masked by superficial charm and immunity to stress,[4] which create an outward appearance of apparent normalcy.[5][6][7][8][9]
I’m a federal worker and recipient of these emails. I don’t trust any of it.
Please don’t resign. Your fortitude and bravery by not doing so is recognized by millions and millions of us.
No worries there. They’ll have to RIF me to get rid of me. 💪
That’s how Annalise!! Stand your ground!!
Exactly. What they are doing has no legal standing. But we may need a massive and very noisy lawsuit to make them back down.
At what point do federal workers start using the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA) to sue the individuals, Elon, Amanda, et al for negligence? I haven't seen any articles about this but it seems like an avenue for federal workers to seek some redress for the PII exposure, agency heads stamping this offer as legal without any regard to the actual laws. Genuinely curious.
I have seen a number of commenters point this out, and legal nonprofits are gathering info, so it is being talked about. I agree absolutely with your comment about agency heads proceeding as if this were a genuinely valid process. I hope that what they actually are doing is stalling to give the legal folks time to pull together the suits to stop this. I am appalled.
An Australian friend says he is having trouble wrapping his mind around this (me too), and called what is happening "mind-numbing". The whole world is stunned.
Never trust a Trump -- or a Musk.
Anything from musk is not a ringing endorsement.
You’re smart not to. These f-tards say anything that wanders into their pea sized brains.
We will hold the line.
The unions will likely get involved.
🤔
To add info on that
American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) and the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), both federated unions under the AFL-CIO, represent more than 2 million government employees combined; AFGE alone represents nearly 800,000 federal civilian employees.(40%)
Stand strong …..time to fight …..fuck the right
Notice that that second email didn't mention retaining pensions.
And along with that, there were the obvious weasel clauses about paying salary assuming funds were available........ I can hear it now, 'well ya know, the democrats wouldn't come to a funding agreement, and so the funds for your salary weren't there after March 17"
Smart👍
Hang in there Annalise! We stick together we win!
Elon Musk is a sick and deranged psychopath. He’s an inhumane WEIRDO, not to mention, um, a Nazi.
I wouldn’t believe a single word, not even a single LETTER, that this vile man writes.
Please DO NOT RESIGN. ❤️🙏
We, the people, support you. We, the people, need you! And most of all, we the people, the millions and millions of us who did not vote for this lunacy, would never want this for our country. The fact is, not even the dumb MAGA people who did vote for Trump 🤢 did NOT vote for Elon Musk either.
Please stand your ground. The world is watching. Thank you for your HIGH PRODUCTIVITY work. We actually do know how important it is. ❤️
Not only did we NOT vote for Elmo, he's an unwanted immigrant who's bought his way into a position he has no right to be in.
And what the HELL is going on over at Treasury with the payment system?? Just read the WaPo article. He has no business getting access to that. Another lawsuit to file to block him. This is wholesale nuts.
THIS!!!
Our tax dollars are being accessed (and potentially manipulated, diverted, destroyed, copied, shared and any number of things) by someone who we didn't vote for! 🤬🤬
Someone needs to be in there holding him accountable. He's blocked access to the employees and forced it the director of the department who has been there for decades.
You didn't lock management and workers out unless there is some crooked, or nefarious happening.
Yes
There are thousands of federal employees in states where their jobs are highly coveted because other industries are in short supply. What senator has not made a promise to bring some amount of federal employment to their state to boost the economy? For example, WV is home to a massive FBI division responsible for fingerprint analysis. The state also houses the IRS computing center, the Treasury bureau of public debt, the world-class mine health and safety academy where all mine disasters are analyzed, and two federal prisons among other agencies that need highly skilled employees. The federal government was the second largest employer in WV when I last lived there. I can't imagine the impact on the state's economy if these jobs are lost. The audacity to suggest federal employees are uneducated or unproductive is outrageous.
I am a retired military officer, and my daughter is a federal employee. She shared the follow-up e-mail with me, enraged at the "low-productivity" comment ... as it is, she is working nights and weekends in order to do the work her understaffed and overtasked office, meeting deadlines MANDATED BY LAW. This is an outrageous affront to the federal workforce, and Musk belongs either in jail or back in South Africa.
I vote for back in s. Africa w/o his security team.
Guantanamo is nice this time of year.
Too bad Robin Island is now shuttered and only available for tourists. But then again I'm sure they'd go more visitors if he was on display there. That would be so poetic :)
Thank you for keeping this deception front and center. They are, and always will be, liars. Just for fun let’s freeze all federal “outer space” contracts. You know, so they can stay home and rest.
😡 They assume federal workers are too stupid/lazy (hence, the “low productivity”) to see they are being scammed. One of donny’s fave moves is to promise to pay people and then stiff them. Annelise isn’t falling for it. Neither should any other federal worker.
Seemingly that’s one of Mr Fork’s favorite moves, too.
Yeah - it Is a fictional narrative they’ve been pushing for decades
This bullshit is exactly why there are unions! The NTEU had better get to work, rally the Federal Workers and show musk the weasel just who the hell he’s messing with!! People don’t get just how essential these workers are! Just my opinion!
AG, thank you for sticking to this.
The FAQ feels like an episode of Severance.
Our military also has a duty to uphold the constitution-time for a coup d'etat while it's still possible.
I am absolutely 100% for that...it's time te people have a REVOLUTION! No one and I mean NO ONE is standing up FOR the people! It's time the people stood up for themselves!
Actually they are.
I'm trying to wrap my head around all of it at the higher levels, because it feels they are all slowly rolling over. Today was a steady stream of organizational messages of support for the civilian workforce via emails, but nothing pushed back. I want to take personal legal action, but I know I just need to be patient and HOLD THE LINE!
All official government notices to employees have the following:
1) Official letterhead
2) a standard letter header
3) a signature or “signed by” at the end
Nothing from @OPM has had these basic marks of an official electronic notice.
Are there any members of Congress helping our federal employees?
AOC is vocal about this
My husband is a federal worker. I have called and written my senators. Please do the same. I created a case with one of them about the breach of security and personal data at OPM. We have to elevate this to create as big a backlash as the federal freezing of funds.
If Musk can infiltrate the database of federal workers with such agility, it is plausible that he infiltrated election databases, specifically those of swing states. Just putting this out there.
Federal workers: Do not fall for this trap! Do not resign! Resist!
YOU BET!!!!!
Yes
No one ever should trust anything the Convicted Felon #47 says...he's a con man and con men LIE, STEAL and CHEAT will entice you with all sorts of things that are all false, fake and a bold face lie! I know, because I was conned by a con man and lost everything and he left me $50K in debt that I had to dig myself out. Oh yeah he promised me the moon and all I got was shafted...so trust me when I say this I know well the intentions of a con man...it's to get whatever HE wants & it's usually your money! the CF #47 is a shyster, a thief, a criminal and a master manipulator. Don't agree to jack sh*it because it's all a con.
Maybe you should first ask the MAGAs that bought his gaudy golden tennis shoes and all that other crap he was panhandling how many actually received the shoes or other crap they paid for.
So do not sign a thing...stand your ground and stay in your job. He's nothing but a vile despicable slime ball.
Musk is tone deaf, and Trump is tone deafer. If they did any polling to justify this move they deserve their money back -- but it's probably our tax dollars anyway.
Also
Sociopathy from Wikis
Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality,[1] is a personality construct[2][3] characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, in combination with traits of boldness, disinhibition, and egocentrism. These traits are often masked by superficial charm and immunity to stress,[4] which create an outward appearance of apparent normalcy.[5][6][7][8][9]